nakedness of women....and others, too (daf 24)
Today's daf (berachot 24) contains some discussion of the appropriateness of reciting the bedtime Shema while naked in bed with another person (either your wife -- remember these were men talking -- or another man that you happened to be sharing the bed with....hmmm...). And then it goes on to discuss other aspects of "nakedness":
Rav Chisda said: The thigh of a woman is considered nakedness (ervah)...Shmuel said: the voice of a woman is considered nakedness (ervah), as it is stated: "for your voice is sweet and your countenance comely." Rav Sheishet said: The hair of a woman is considered nakedness.
Interesting. These "naked" things are pretty much the basis, I believe, for many of the concepts of modesty -- can't wear pants, can't sing in public, have to cover the hair....I wonder why it is that there isn't a similar discussion about that which is considered "nakedness" for MEN that might be distracting to WOMEN?
p.s. there's a small bit that I chuckled over. (is one allowed to chuckle over Talmud? well, I did.) If one is sleeping naked, but covered entirely by a cloak, and is able to stick his head out of the cloak, then he can recite the Shema, so his nakedness is overed. But, it says, how can this work: "his heart still sees his nakedness" -- and I had to giggle, because it made me think of the line: "I'm naked under my clothes!" -- which, I suppose, we all are, all the time. Just a thought.